Got this email yesterday from Sue who has Ruby Lucy, a Cavalier we rehomed a few years ago, about an article she read in the Daily Mail which should of had the title, "Bullshit and denial," or maybe that should be "Dogshit and dogma" Lol
trust this finds you and family well, and keeping warm.Just thought you might be interested in an article in the Daily Mail today regarding Cavaliers and how the writer of the article has the same principle ideas as you regarding breeding thought you might be interested and maybe give your views on this also, think there may have been and e mail address.We are fine here, no plans for a Down Under trip as yet!!we are looking forward to the Spring so we can get out for some lovely long walks over the Quantocks and Exmoor,the bulbs we planted when we moved in are now pushing up through the soil so Spring must be round the corner.
Hope it is not too late to wish you all a Happy New Year,Very best wishes.
Below is the link to the Daily Mail article :
I have replied Sue and before I shared my reply I felt it only right to ask Carol Fowler about mentioning her interest in what I'm doing, as when she visited me a couple years ago, I think she was a bit war weary and had taken so much flack for whistle blowing with the Cavalier breed, that she was careful of who she was connected with and asked me not to mention her interest and visit on my website and I understood her request at that time. Just got her reply about mentioning me knowing her.
The only comment I would make is that what you have said below no longer applies :
She has asked me not to make public her interest in what I am doing and I understand this, because she has people who are all to ready to pull her apart, so she has to be careful, she has suffered awful vitriol from the Cavalier club and its members, some dog breeders are really horrible people.
I'm not bothered at all by what Cavalier breeders think of me. I'm not bothered about offending them either, although I try not to enter into direct discussions with them. You can tell whomever you like about my interest in what you are doing. I applaud you and any other breeder who breeds for health and good temperament and who breeds dogs which will make good family pets/companions.
Glad to hear Carol being so positive and as my old Mum says, "When someones having a go at you, just think they are giving some other poor old bugger a rest and if that don't cheer you up, just imagine them sat on the toilet having a crap." Lol
And this is my reply to Sue's email :
lovely to hear from you Sue and my reply is as follows.
Thanks for telling me about the article. I actually know Carol Fowler, she contacted me a couple years ago and visited me, she keeps in touch from time to time. She is very interested in the Brittany/Cavalier cross I am doing.She has asked me not to make public her interest in what I am doing and I understand this, because she has people who are all to ready to pull her apart, so she has to be careful, she has suffered awful vitriol from the Cavalier club and its members, some dog breeders are really horrible people.
The article though is the normal denial from the Cavalier Club and you are picking on us. The usual spiel of Cavaliers are wussy dogs, when they show pain, it's not the same pain as other dogs it's Cavalier pain, it's normal for the breed, nothing to worry about. In fact many vets will tell you that Cavaliers are one of the best behaved dogs when doing medical procedures such as finding a vein, as you may know putting a needle in to a vein does hurt a bit. My Cavaliers are not wussy and when Jessica was sitting on our front doorstep and then jumped up the top step in through the door wagging her tail to reveal her back leg dangling with just a few strands of flesh keeping it attached to her body, she certainly was not being wussy and did not scream once on her trip to the vets to have it amputated and it was commented on by the vet how brave she is.
The KC give a typical answer and utter bullshit. If you want to have a KC Cavalier registered pup, they do have the power to make heart testing and MRI scanning mandatory of parents of a pup mandatory if registered with them. They have made it mandatory to test parents eyes on the Assured breeder scheme, so they really have no reasoning to not introduce mandatory tests for hearts and heads, as the heart problem in Cavaliers is more common than the eye conditions they test for and unlike eye conditions is a terminal condition, so it seems crazy that they don't make the hearts at least mandatory. It is more about loss of income than power. If the KC became all moral, they would not allow any puppy to be registered with them unless it was from a breeder inspected and breeding under the rules of their assured scheme and they would make health tests relevant to the on going health of each breed mandatory, but that would mean a vast drop in registration and most of the breed clubs would splinter away from the KC, but the puppy buying population if buying a KC registered pup would be more sure about the provenance of their pups health and ethics of the breeder. Unfortunately the KC still dances to the tune of the breed clubs and the cash coming into the tills and until they stop doing that progress will be at a snails pace and will be to slow for many breeds that we will see disappear.
When I had my Cavaliers hearts examined just before Christmas the heart vet told us, "He knows show champion Cavalier spaniels now that have not had one health test done that is recommended in Cavaliers." The reason why most Cavalier breeders don't do health tests (because the health problems in this breed do not stem from puppy farming, but producing a look for the show ring), is because they think they are above such things and if they say it is so, it is and the hilarious thing is that when the MRI scanning started many top breeders queued up to prove how wonderful their dogs are, but when the BVA scheme started giving results to the contrary, many have stopped scanning on the scheme and called the scheme in to disrepute saying that "they automatically grade Cavaliers for Chiari Malformation at 2 without looking at the MRI scan even." They don't like the scheme because it has not given them the results they want, believe me I doubt if they would be saying anything if every dog was graded 0, which certainly would be a worry if they did. The vet in this article takes the easy route of blaming the public, rather than throwing stones at the public he ought to look at how vets have stood so silent for so long knowing the health issues in lots of breeds, whilst reaping the benefits of a constant cash cow.
Sheena Maclaine (chairman of the Cavalier Breeders Club) says, " Even dogs whose MRI tests give them a 'clear' bill of health can still produce a problem puppy, she argues, and she does not believe that head shape is the issue." It is true that dogs that are clear can still produce affected offspring but they will be far more likely to produce more unaffected offspring than a dog affected being bred from and she then denies the head shape is the issue, which goes against all the scientists and vets involved in researching the head problems and she is the Chairman of the Cavalier Breeders Club, so what hope do these little dogs have when the apparent custodians of them make such comments.
I could say more, but sometimes it just feels like banging your head against a brick wall and although the above might suggest otherwise, I'm more of a doer than a talking about doing, so I will keep on doing my thing and hope that others will see the light before to much of this lovely little spaniel is lost.
Hope this makes sense.
Happy New Year Sue, Jim and Lucy xxx
Lets end on a quote "Being in a minority, even in a minority of one, did not make you mad. There was truth and there was untruth, and if you clung to the truth even against the whole world, you are not mad."
- George Orwell, Nineteen, eighty-four
“The greatest pleasure of a dog is that you may make a fool of yourself with him, and not only will he not scold you,but he will make a fool of himself, too.”
― Samuel Butler
Me with The Poundlane Mommas March 2018
Hello, I am Jane, you might of guessed, I love dogs. We are situated in the North Devon countryside, England, United Kingdom. Our home is occupied by my husband, David, our children, pack of dogs and me.